McGuire’s Mondays: Overthink Mondays – WWE Bash In Berlin edition

By Colin McGuire, ProWrestling.net Staffer

It has to be one of the most throwaway weekends in WWE’s calendar year – a B-level PLE followed by an NXT show (that, to be fair, probably overdelivered). It comes smack in the middle of AEW’s All In/All Out sandwich, and, at least stateside, it’s also the unofficial end of summer, what with it being Labor Day weekend and all. But that doesn’t mean things didn’t happen and that doesn’t mean there hasn’t been time to overthink! As such, here’s a quick look at a few takeaways from WWE’s soon-to-be-forgotten weekend.

I BELIEVE IN INTERNATIONAL MEDIA (Clap! Clap!)

After the dust settled Saturday night in Berlin, WWE staged their obligatory press conference, and at least two things stuck out (outside of the fact that Paul Levesque blew it off to reportedly help his daughter move in at college because sticking around an extra hour in Germany was apparently a deal-breaker). First, the Janel Grant question. Some fine reporter ignored the side-eyes that WWE handlers were undoubtedly giving him and pressed Cody Rhodes, of all people, on the upcoming Vince McMahon documentary, as well as the Janel Grant allegations.

Better yet, when Cody tried to charm his way out of it by flippantly pivoting to how he’s in the middle of a “Game Of Thrones” rewatch, the media didn’t budge and Cody actually had to deal with the Real Life stuff. To his credit, he tap-danced around the stuff impressively, especially considering he most definitely could not have been expecting a heavy inquiry like that to be lobbed his way. There’s a future in PR for the guy if he wants it, but we already knew that.

My only issue? Come on, man. Nobody believes that you don’t know enough about the McMahon trial to speak on it, and nobody believes that it isn’t a topic of conversation backstage. Yes, Cody’s options for responses were limited, but there was probably a better answer than that floating somewhere out there. Either way, it was fun to see the room get uncomfortable and at least one of WWE’s biggest names have to at least try to work his way around these very real issues that hover over all things WWE.

As for the other thing that stuck out …

A NOT-SO-QUIET STORM

Jade Cargill, who absolutely does not want to talk about AEW anymore. Damnit. Just listen to her:

“You know what, I’m so tired of answering questions about AEW,” Cargill responded when she was asked about how life’s been over the last year or so. “I’m proud to be from there. However, I’m here [in WWE]. I’m focused on what I’m doing next, and what’s next is us just solidifying and owning these tag team titles and going out there and making a name for ourselves.”

And you want to know what? I kind of agree with her. Implicit in these AEW questions that keep getting thrown her way is that her WWE run – so far, at least – hasn’t really turned out the way a lot of people thought it would after her dominance in AEW. In a lot of ways, that’s insulting. But she seems happy. It’s not like she isn’t working with A-level talent in WWE when you consider who her tag team partner is. And, above all, who knows what the long-term plans are for her and perhaps those long-term plans are plans that we on the outside know nothing about.

She left AEW about a year ago. Let’s move on. To this point, everyone involved – both AEW and Cargill herself – have been class acts regarding her move to WWE. She’s not going to speak ill of her time in Jacksonville and everyone in Jacksonville seems to have nothing but positive things to say about her time working there. I’m with her. Leave it alone.

NO NEWS IS (NOT GREAT) NEWS

So, have we cracked the code for how things are going to work now? Five or six matches on a B-level PLE card. No title changes for the highly regarded belts. The non-highly-regarded belts (see: any tag-team title) may change hands – that is if those belts even get a match on the card. Every match is either a championship match or one that features a stipulation. Nothing important really happens (i.e. debuts, returns, etc.). And then it’s on to one of the next big four (or five) PLEs, where titles can and do actually change hands?

It’s all to say that Bash In Berlin was not newsworthy. No heel turn from Kevin Owens. The women’s tag belts were returned to their rightful owners. CM Punk and Drew McIntyre had a fairly pedestrian strap match. And Rhea Ripley and Damian Priest got their revenge on The Judgment Day. But in the end … so what? There’s no denying that under Vince McMahon, things got to a point where the formulaic nature of the shows were such a burden, the product became unwatchable. These days, there’s a lot of hoopla surrounding the new regime in WWE and the vast improvements in everything, pretty much across the board.

But who’s to say this formula that Paul Levesque and his team has concocted won’t soon run its course? When Levesque was at the helm of NXT and started the trend of less-but-longer matches on PLEs, he had a great roster filled with talent that thrived in that environment. But this main roster he’s dealing with now? I’m not so sure I want to live in a world where we need to have an 18-minute Nia Jax match. Or, for that matter, a world where a 44-year-old Randy Orton, who has no problem taking his time doing everything from walking to the ring to setting up ring steps, is asked to stretch his atypical 12-minute television match into a 35-minute PLE main event slog.

In short, PLEs don’t need to happen for the sake of having a PLE. Likewise, we don’t need to force issues between wrestlers for the sake of half-ass building a story for a half-ass Special Show. It’ll never happen, but all the major wrestling companies in America could stand to lose one or two of their Special Shows on their respective calendars. There’s too much money involved for anyone to scale back – I get that – but when does this schedule begin to compromise the quality of the Paul Levesque era in WWE?

I ask because after this weekend, I’m beginning to think we’re closer to that point than at least I, for one, previously thought we were.

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Readers Comments (7)

  1. “Either way, it was fun to see the room get uncomfortable and at least one of WWE’s biggest names have to at least try to work his way around these very real issues that hover over all things WWE.”

    No it wasn’t. It was annoying to hear another bottom feeding blogger twat “journalist” ask a fucking moronic question that any real journalist wouldn’t because they know that Cody isn’t legally allowed to answer about something that’s part of an ongoing lawsuit. Anyone who enjoys that is a bottom feeding piece of shit.

    “But who’s to say this formula that Paul Levesque and his team has concocted won’t soon run its course? When Levesque was at the helm of NXT and started the trend of less-but-longer matches on PLEs, he had a great roster filled with talent that thrived in that environment. But this main roster he’s dealing with now? I’m not so sure I want to live in a world where we need to have an 18-minute Nia Jax match. Or, for that matter, a world where a 44-year-old Randy Orton, who has no problem taking his time doing everything from walking to the ring to setting up ring steps, is asked to stretch his atypical 12-minute television match into a 35-minute PLE main event slog.”

    There’s about 4,000x more talent on this current main roster than the shitty NXT black and gold (more like boring and godawful) and wrestling fans that like actual pro wrestling between adult sized competitors actually like what’s happening now.

    • You always ask the question. It’s up to the person being asked the question to say no comment or I can’t comment for legal reasons. As much as it may feel like a wasted question because you know it will get a no comment type of answer, it still needs to be asked. Imagine if political reporters never asked tough questions because they assume politicians will try to spin their way out of it. You ask the question and let them respond. If you’re lucky enough to get a follow-up question, which the wrestling media rarely does, you can push for more. But you always ask the question.

      • It’s like asking Cody who he is going to vote for during the presidential election. It’s not going to serve a purpose and if he is smart he is going to avoid a direct answer

        Honestly I do not care what Cody or KO or Greyson Waller or Kendall Grey or anyone signed to a WWE contract thinks. Almost none of them know any more than we know anyway. And even if they did this is an ongoing lawsuit it would be insane to answer the question

        So congrats to the reporter who made everyone uncomfortable. Hopefully next time someone asks Tiffany Stratton her position on Hamas

        • Asking Tiffany about Hamas would be a reach. This pertained to WWE. Big difference. And Cody handled it well. Would I have asked Cody about Janel Grant at a press conference? Probably not, though perhaps it would come up in a longer interview. The Vince documentary? Sure. Sometimes I feel like reporters can’t win and this goes beyond wrestling. If they ask the tough questions, a lot of people think they are assholes for asking. If they don’t ask the tough questions, a lot of people accuse them of asking softball questions. Ultimately, you have to know that you’re not going to please everyone and just do your job regardless of the blowback potential.

          • This wasn’t a tough question. It’s something a blogger who thinks they’re a journalist would ask. It’s the kind of shit that people who have never had a real job would ask because they have no idea how the real world works.

            It’s an active lawsuit involving a previous WWE employee and nobody outside of the legal department can answer the question. Anyone who has worked in the real world knows that. It’s only fuckwit dipshit blogger “journalists” on shitty wrestling websites that think that it’s okay.

            This fucking McGuire guy is an even bigger dipshit than than Will Pruett twat.

        • Exactly. It’s a low rent shithole move by a bunch of blogger hacks who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground. Nobody with a shred of journalistic integrity would do such bullshit. It’s TMZ level bullshit, but sadly that’s par for the course for wrestling “journalism” outside of Mike Johnson these days.

          Powell loves that kind of shit because that’s who he is as well.

          • Okay, TGO, that’s a bit too much. I don’t always agree with everything Powell says, but I’ve always appreciated that he’s honest and truthful about his thoughts. I don’t feel like there’s much smoke being blown if you know what I mean. I don’t think alluding to him being TMZ-level (as a low blow jab) is very fair. He likes what he likes and doesn’t like what he doesn’t like, and he’s clear about that.

            There’s a reason I frequent THIS site and not sites like pwinsider or pwtorch (I do go to them sometimes but this is where I do 90% of my wrestling news) – it’s because .Net doesn’t report on every tiny little thing they can get their hands on just to become a content mill. If they have something they feel they need to report, usually it needs to be reported.

            I appreciate your honesty and candor too, but I don’t believe your criticism of Powell is warranted.

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