{"id":90069,"date":"2021-04-15T10:29:41","date_gmt":"2021-04-15T15:29:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/?p=90069"},"modified":"2021-04-15T10:29:41","modified_gmt":"2021-04-15T15:29:41","slug":"former-wwe-wrestler-big-cass-cazxl-on-how-his-alcohol-addiction-became-a-matter-of-life-and-death-enzo-amore-helping-him-with-his-recovery-future-plans-in-pro-wrestling-hopping-the-guardrail-at-m","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/2021\/04\/15\/former-wwe-wrestler-big-cass-cazxl-on-how-his-alcohol-addiction-became-a-matter-of-life-and-death-enzo-amore-helping-him-with-his-recovery-future-plans-in-pro-wrestling-hopping-the-guardrail-at-m\/","title":{"rendered":"Former WWE wrestler Big Cass (CazXL) on how his alcohol addiction became a matter of life and death, Enzo Amore helping him with his recovery, future plans in pro wrestling, hopping the guardrail at MSG at the G1 Supercard"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"prowr-3772449074\" class=\"prowr-apple-podcast-button-link prowr-entity-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/pro-wrestling-boom-podcast\/id1365989370\" aria-label=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?fit=320%2C78&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?w=320&ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?resize=300%2C73&ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" width=\"320\" height=\"78\"   \/><\/a><\/div><p><b>By Jason Powell<\/b>, ProWrestling.net Editor (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prowrestlingnet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@prowrestlingnet<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><b>Insight With Chris Van Vliet with guest Big Cass (CazXL)<br \/>\nHost: Chris Van Vliet<br \/>\nInterview available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=4Y2U46J3SME\">Chris Van Vliet&#8217;s YouTube Page<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.simplecast.com\/5aad2600-59a6-4b6a-9aa0-52c88e35f0aa?dark=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"200px\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\" seamless=\"\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><b>Going into recovery for alcohol addiction became a matter of life and death:<\/b> &#8220;It became a matter of life and death. I had a few more seizures after the one in Philadelphia. It got to the point where I knew I was going to die. If I keep going down this path I\u2019m gonna die. There was a point where maybe I didn\u2019t even care about that, but for some reason at that point in time I did care. I was like I can\u2019t die, I\u2019ve got to do something about this. I could have easily given up, but some instinctual thing told me to keep going. The hardest thing to do is to reach out for help.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Does he think a WWE return is possible?<\/b> &#8220;I do. I think with time and earning people\u2019s trust, just as I have earned my family and friend&#8217;s trust. People have to see you doing well over a certain period of time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&lt;,b&gt;How much Diamond Dallas Page helped him with his recovery: &#8220;He helped a lot. He was one of the first people to give me a platform and encourage me to share what I was going through. If I didn\u2019t do that then people can\u2019t relate to it. That was a big first step was me admitting it. I think I admitted it in a promo backstage after I wrestled Jon Moxley. But the video that DDPY put out really got the word out to what I was going through. And it was through Dallas that I met my girlfriend [Lexy Nair, daughter of Dallas Page and AEW Backstage reporter].&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On a possible future in All Elite Wrestling:<\/b> &#8220;I would love to go to AEW. I\u2019d love to go back to WWE, go to AEW, Impact, New Japan, Ring of Honor, wherever. Those conversations with Gallows and Anderson have happened and it\u2019s something I would love to do. But one day at a time is the way I take it, I don\u2019t want to look too far into the future. If a phone call comes tonight that\u2019s great, if it doesn\u2019t come for another 3 \u2013 4 months or a year, that\u2019s fine too. I\u2019m open to go anywhere and to have fun, and to make a name for myself.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On how it feels being back:<\/b> &#8220;It feels amazing. There was a point in time where I thought I don\u2019t want to go back to wrestling. I almost hated it and resented it so bad. I woke up four months ago and realized that was the first thing I fell in love with. You want to do what you love in life, you want to do what you\u2019re passionate about, or you\u2019re not gonna be happy. I am passionate about wrestling, and I just started my journey to getting back into the ring.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Did he think he was done with wrestling?<\/b> &#8220;Yeah I think so. I was kind of just looking. I was thinking about going back to school to get my masters in social work. I\u2019m very passionate about recovery and I want to help people. That was an option, to go back and get my masters. I was kind of just looking at different paths in my life, and I told myself I wasn\u2019t going back to wrestling. But yeah, here I am. I guess it was resentment, or just that I really hated it for a little while. I didn\u2019t want to be anywhere near it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>At what point did he know he had a problem with alcohol?<\/b> &#8220;A lot of people would tell me I had a problem. But I think I was so delusional, even after I had that first seizure in Philadelphia, I still didn\u2019t think I had a problem. The next day I thought I had a problem, then two days later I was like no I can drink again. I guess after the rest of that year, with all the incidents that happened, and then finally when I went to rehab, was when I finally admitted that I had a serious problem.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>What he remembers from the night he had a seizure at the House of Hardcore event in Philadelphia:<\/b> &#8220;I remember doing the signing. I remember I went to lunch with Gangrel. I remember talking with Bubba [Ray Dudley] and Tommy [Dreamer] in the locker room, going over my promo with Dreamer. I was supposed to be on right after intermission, but I had to go sign at intermission. I remember dumping my water bottle over my head [back in Gorilla]. My comb was on the table, and that\u2019s the last thing I remember. I must have walked out to the merch table and I don\u2019t remember anything except being loaded into an ambulance. [Chris asks about being at the hospital] I did what I did best and lied, tried to come up with some bullshit. I said maybe I\u2019m dehydrated or I\u2019m not sleeping enough, it\u2019s exhaustion. I knew it was alcohol withdrawal, but I was too embarrassed to admit that to anybody. Some people knew because I had a bottle of liquor in my bag that I didn\u2019t drink from. But I was super embarrassed.&#8221;<\/p><div id=\"prowr-2875093757\" class=\"prowr-content-4 prowr-entity-placement\"><!-- Tag ID: prowrestling_incontent_2 -->\r\n<div align=\"center\" data-freestar-ad=\"__336x280 __336x280\" id=\"prowrestling_incontent_2\">\r\n  <script data-cfasync=\"false\" type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n    freestar.config.enabled_slots.push({ placementName: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\", slotId: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\" });\r\n  <\/script>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><b>Was being released from WWE release the catalyst for him to start drinking?<\/b> &#8220;I think I had a problem way before. The release gave me the opportunity to live that way with no responsibilities, which is a horrible thing for an addict. 2017 was when it started to go downhill. You\u2019re wearing a mask, you\u2019re hiding and you\u2019re making everybody think you\u2019re ok. You drink in your room and you make sure that nobody sees you. There were so many things going on mentally, I was really struggling but I didn\u2019t want to say anything. It shouldn\u2019t be embarrassing but I was embarrassed and humiliated. I guess there\u2019s a stigma around mental health, which is toughen up. Especially in wrestling or any kind of tough person business. It was telling myself \u2018Just toughen up.\u2019 But that\u2019s the wrong way to go about things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On his future goals:<\/b> &#8220;So right now I am loving what I am doing. I get to pick my own schedule, work the shows I want to work, enjoy my time alone with my girlfriend. Tampa is a great city, we have two French Bulldogs, so spending time doing our own thing. Ultimately I want to get back to a big stage, because I have a lot of things that I didn\u2019t accomplish in wrestling that I want to accomplish. Enzo and I, we had a good run, we were very memorable. I always want to be memorable. Being a champion to me isn\u2019t worth as much as being super memorable. I want to be memorable as a singles star, that\u2019s a goal of mine. I want to prove to myself that I can do it, because there was a long time where I thought I couldn\u2019t do it anymore. Also, keep speaking out about my story, addiction and mental health. Just help others, that\u2019s the goal in life. I had money, fame and all this stuff, that doesn\u2019t amount to sh*t. I get so much joy out of helping one person. So the goal in life is just to help other people.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On Enzo helping him these past few years:<\/b> &#8220;He\u2019s been tremendous. I was staying in New Jersey with him for a while. He was a big part in finally getting me to go to rehab. There\u2019s so many stories of where I was in a hotel room in this city or that city, he\u2019d have to fly out to come and get me. He\u2019s been tremendous, and he\u2019s been super supportive. He\u2019s also super supportive of me getting back into wrestling, whether it\u2019s us or just me. Enzo\u2019s like do your thing man, I want to see you rise.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On the G1 Supercard incident at Madison Square Garden:<\/b> &#8220;That was crazy and out of control. Nobody knew, so I couldn\u2019t quite get Enzo to process. I said \u2018there\u2019s eight guys in the match, we\u2019re only taking on two of them after the match. There\u2019s six other guys involved, very formidable wrestlers, that don\u2019t know this is happening. We might get our asses handed to us by eight people.\u2019 Yeah super nervous, and when we went out there and did it, that felt amazing. There were six people in the world that knew about this, including me and Enzo. We got changed at a friend\u2019s office a few blocks by, we walked over to the building and we sent the text to person X. They came down, got us and put us in a room in the back. It was kind of helter skelter too. We had to watch the screen and wait for our cue. There was shock value, the heat we got I think came from guys not knowing. A lot of the times fans like to be smartened up as to what\u2019s going on. There was resentment from some fans at least, they were like they got us. No matter what anyone says now, 20,000 people in that building and I don\u2019t know how many people watching at home, not one person watching at that time thought Enzo and Cass are going to hop the guardrail. 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