{"id":196196,"date":"2026-09-01T11:30:19","date_gmt":"2026-09-01T16:30:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/?p=196196"},"modified":"2026-09-01T11:23:49","modified_gmt":"2026-09-01T16:23:49","slug":"dexter-lumis-on-his-legendary-dream-opponent-fans-not-realizing-he-can-actually-speak-whether-wwe-releasing-him-again-feels-final-this-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/2026\/09\/01\/dexter-lumis-on-his-legendary-dream-opponent-fans-not-realizing-he-can-actually-speak-whether-wwe-releasing-him-again-feels-final-this-time\/","title":{"rendered":"Dexter Lumis on his legendary dream opponent, fans not realizing he can actually speak, whether WWE releasing him again feels final this time"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"prowr-1862029024\" class=\"prowr-apple-podcast-button-link prowr-entity-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/pro-wrestling-boom-podcast\/id1365989370\" aria-label=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?fit=320%2C78&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?w=320&ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?resize=300%2C73&ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" width=\"320\" height=\"78\"   \/><\/a><\/div><p><b>By Jason Powell<\/b>, ProWrestling.net Editor (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prowrestlingnet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@prowrestlingnet<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><b>Insight With Chris Van Vliet with guest Dexter Lumis<br \/>\nHost: Chris Van Vliet<br \/>\nPodcast available via <a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.chrisvanvliet.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcasts.Apple.com<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3LKqvF-5ABE?si=PJBaC5Zqqh-Jaqtc\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><b>I was just thinking before we hit record, this is going to be the first time that a lot of people hear your voice. You didn&#8217;t talk a lot in WWE.<\/b> &#8220;I sure didn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s funny because fans come to me, like last weekend at WrestleCon, or this appearance I did in Phoenix. Randoms will come up to me and be like, &#8216;I loved you on <em>Tacoma FD<\/em>.&#8217; I&#8217;m like, &#8216;You watched that, so you heard me speak.&#8217; People are blown away by that. I do actually speak, I was playing a character.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Why didn&#8217;t that character speak?<\/b> &#8220;I don&#8217;t really know why they decided, hey, this is great if he just doesn&#8217;t speak. But I had my mentality on it, and I think what I was looking at is everybody talks, almost, in my opinion, too much. So how can I be different? I&#8217;m always thinking about that. How can I present myself on TV differently than everybody else to catch the attention of the fans in a different way? So I think it was striking in a way: this guy, he&#8217;s just got a cold stare, and he doesn&#8217;t speak. Then it became a challenge. Can I elicit emotion from the fans without saying a word? Can I make them feel a certain way? Can I get my emotion that I&#8217;m trying to get across to these fans without saying anything? That became kind of the goal, the mission.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>How are you feeling now, a few months removed from being let go?<\/b> &#8220;I mean, I went through all the emotions, I guess you could say. But my mentality is like, okay, that&#8217;s maybe done for now, or forever. I can&#8217;t change what&#8217;s happened in the past. The right now is what I&#8217;m focused on, and the future. I don&#8217;t want to dwell on any negativity in that arena, but yeah, it&#8217;s disheartening. I was there for seven years, and I feel like I had a really unique, very fun career. I got to see the world. I was in Poland on my birthday this year, and I&#8217;m just sitting in the locker room. I had some downtime by myself, and I&#8217;m just like, this is pretty amazing. I feel like a real wrestler, like a real WWE Superstar. It&#8217;s those things that really hit you. You&#8217;re so far away from your family, but yet you still feel connected to this family.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Does this release feel more final than that first one?<\/b> &#8220;It does feel a little more final. You always hear, you know, the door could always still be open. Never say never; those types of things. But I feel like now, as opposed to back then, I got to go out and prove myself a little bit more.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>In NXT, the wedding with Indi Hartwell may be one of the most successful wrestling weddings ever. Most of them end disastrously.<\/b> &#8220;This one was not disastrous.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Yeah, it was just like you said your first words in WWE.<\/b> &#8220;That&#8217;s it. &#8216;I do.&#8217; That never happens. It could have gone differently. There were ideas that were thrown around that were going to go off way different, but I&#8217;m really happy with that 10-minute wedding segment. I still have a little script saved, so does Indi [Hartwell], because it was a very special thing for us. Because how many people can say they were in WWE and they had a wedding on TV that went off without a hitch, or just had a wedding in general? You got to be, I think, perceived a certain way to get that for yourself on a TV that they&#8217;re giving you that time on TV because it&#8217;s entertaining. We were entertaining enough to pull that off, and we had a connection with the fans, and we had a connection with each other. She would try and break me, man.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>She ever get you?<\/b> &#8220;Close, but she was like the only one that could almost do it because she was so ridiculous. I&#8217;d have to be in character, like this stoic [person]. If we&#8217;re out there with Johnny [Gargano], for instance, and he&#8217;s having a match, and I&#8217;m just standing there watching my friend wrestle, she&#8217;d be on the apron just staring at me. I&#8217;m just like trying not to look over there. During rehearsals, I&#8217;d break, but I&#8217;m like, all right, this is the time to get it out. When the red light&#8217;s on, and we&#8217;re live, pal, you ain&#8217;t gonna break me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>I don&#8217;t feel like you got the chance to show your full potential in the seven years you were in WWE. I feel like there&#8217;s so much more that you could do.<\/b> &#8220;I agree. I don&#8217;t know what else to say about that. I feel like I could go with anybody you put me in front of. As a matter of fact, I wish Brock Lesnar wasn&#8217;t retired because that has been my absolute epitome of the match that I want.&#8221;<\/p><div id=\"prowr-1991266786\" class=\"prowr-content-4 prowr-entity-placement\"><!-- Tag ID: prowrestling_incontent_2 -->\r\n<div align=\"center\" data-freestar-ad=\"__336x280 __336x280\" id=\"prowrestling_incontent_2\">\r\n  <script data-cfasync=\"false\" type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n    freestar.config.enabled_slots.push({ placementName: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\", slotId: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\" });\r\n  <\/script>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><b>Why is that the dream match?<\/b> &#8220;Who&#8217;s more intimidating in the wrestling business that&#8217;s still somewhat active? I know he just retired, but when that guy comes out to the ring, everybody&#8217;s just floored. There is a presence, and if he likes you, and you have a good match with him, and you show him that you can carry the ball. I feel like that&#8217;s the standard, you know. That&#8217;s the guy. You should want your career to be like his. To get the limited schedule, to get the money, to get the notoriety, to be a badass, to be legit, but also to be so giving. I&#8217;ve had conversations with Brock, and he might just be like, &#8216;Oh, I don&#8217;t remember that kid.&#8217; But I feel like I was right there, and I respect the hell out of him. I&#8217;m very happy that he&#8217;s had such a great career. Oba Femi, what a great story those two had. I&#8217;m not mad. I&#8217;m very happy for that situation and Brock&#8217;s retiring and everything, but you know, I always think, &#8216;What if?'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Was there something that was supposed to happen, or were you just hopeful that it could have?<\/b> &#8220;Well, I mentioned Paul Heyman earlier, and it&#8217;s having conversations with him. I just didn&#8217;t beat around the bush. I just said, &#8216;Hey, I want to wrestle Brock Lesnar. How do we do that?&#8217; And that&#8217;s when the conversation started shifting towards you need to be a singles guy. I wanted the Wyatt Sicks to work, but how long can it last? 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