{"id":179890,"date":"2025-10-21T17:17:47","date_gmt":"2025-10-21T22:17:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/?p=179890"},"modified":"2025-10-21T17:17:47","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T22:17:47","slug":"natalya-on-husband-tj-wilsons-career-ending-injury-why-she-feels-bad-for-samoa-joe-her-forthcoming-book-her-character-outside-wwe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/2025\/10\/21\/natalya-on-husband-tj-wilsons-career-ending-injury-why-she-feels-bad-for-samoa-joe-her-forthcoming-book-her-character-outside-wwe\/","title":{"rendered":"Natalya on husband TJ Wilson&#8217;s career-ending injury, why she feels bad for Samoa Joe, her forthcoming book, her character outside WWE"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"prowr-919759030\" class=\"prowr-apple-podcast-button-link prowr-entity-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/pro-wrestling-boom-podcast\/id1365989370\" aria-label=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?fit=320%2C78&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?w=320&ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?resize=300%2C73&ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" width=\"320\" height=\"78\"   \/><\/a><\/div><p><b>By Jason Powell<\/b>, ProWrestling.net Editor (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prowrestlingnet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@prowrestlingnet<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><b>Insight With Chris Van Vliet with guest Natalya<br \/>\nHost: Chris Van Vliet<br \/>\nPodcast available via <a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.chrisvanvliet.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcasts.Apple.com<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-T-PneMu5lQ?si=8YYQHNoBduhey0tN\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Natalya&#8217;s book &#8220;The Last Hart Beating: From the Dungeon to WWE&#8221; will be released on October 28.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><b>On her new character outside of WWE: <\/b>&#8220;It\u2019s been the most liberating feeling working on that character, and it all just happened so organically, it really stemmed from the book. After I finished writing the book, I was like, Oh my God, I know what I need to do now. I had signed this new contract with WWE, and I think with Triple H, I think he really wanted to find the right thing. I think he didn\u2019t want to just throw me in stuff that didn\u2019t matter. I think he really wanted to find the right thing. The thing with him is that I believe he\u2019s a forward thinker. So he was like, we just can\u2019t rush into it. We just have to find the right thing for you. And because I had expressed when I was signing my new deal, I was like, I got to grow. This isn\u2019t just about money for me. This is about growing. I have to grow. I have to evolve.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I feel like I\u2019m in the best shape of my life. I love wrestling, and I need something to dive into. But when I was doing my contract, I didn\u2019t quite know what that was. It wasn\u2019t until I finished the book so I was in a little bit of a creative rut. It was early this year. It was like February of this year, and I was like, man, WrestleMania is right around the corner, and I don\u2019t know where I fit in. I just know I\u2019m not going to be on the card. I\u2019m not in a storyline. No one\u2019s talking about where I fit in, because you can read the room, you can measure the pulse. I would talk to the writers, I would try to pick people\u2019s brains and go, Where do I fit in? And this, by the way, is after being in a company for over 18 years. I\u2019m still climbing and scratching and clawing for my spot, which is half the battle and half the beauty.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So Josh Barnett and I got to talking, and he was like, \u2018Let\u2019s do Bloodsport.\u2019 I was like, I\u2019d love to do Bloodsport. We got to talking about me doing Bloodsport, and I said, I\u2019m going to ask for permission. I walked up to Triple H. He was at the ringside. He was doing a rehearsal for Monday Night Raw. Walked up to him. I told him, \u2018Listen, I\u2019ve spoken to Josh Barnett. I would love to do Bloodsport.\u2019 And Hunter was like, Sure. I was so afraid that he was going to say no, because I was like, I really, really, really want to do something Mania weekend. I need to do something, my creative juices are just feeling so stifled. He said yes right away. And he\u2019s like, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, no problem at all. And I know that the company really respects Josh, and they\u2019ve let talent work and do stuff at Bloodsport before. He said yes, so supportively that I was like, I remember that day. I was so excited. I ran up to TJ [Wilson], and I was like, Hunter loved it. He was like, Yeah, go for it. So I took that as This is my mission to build something that I\u2019ve never built before.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On being ringside for Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon at WrestleMania 26: <\/b>&#8220;It was crazy because we only found out that we were going to be part of that the night before. So Vince wanted to do this. Vince and Bret were going to do the match, and then Vince had decided the night before that he wanted the whole family out there. Somebody was going into the Hall of Fame. I can\u2019t remember what it was, but the family was there, and then Vince decided, listen, the whole family\u2019s here, maybe we\u2019ll just get them all in the ring, get them all out there with Bret. But then Vince wanted me to slap him. [&#8230;] So Vince, before the match, he pulled me aside and he was like, \u2018I really want you to have this moment.\u2019 And I thought that was great. He really cared about me having that moment. So he was like, \u2018But you have to promise me one thing, Natalie. You have to slap me as hard as you can.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On why Vince McMahon calls her Natalie:<\/b> &#8220;He always called me Natalie. And so he made me promise him that I\u2019m going to hit him hard. He was like, It has to look real, because he didn\u2019t want me being scared that he was the boss, where I maybe don\u2019t touch him, imagine me at WrestleMania not actually hitting him, and I totally miss his face, or whatever. He was like, \u2018It needs to look good. It needs to look real.\u2019 And after the match, Hunter was like, Who taught you how to slap, Steph?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On what was the most difficult chapter of the book to write: <\/b>&#8220;I think the most difficult topic to cover was TJ\u2019s injury. I had sleepless nights writing about those chapters. Those were the chapters that they pulled at my heart because they were really [tough]. Even with the stuff that, you know, we think about the Hart family, you think about all the things, there\u2019s been highs and lows. Owen\u2019s death was very tragic. My dad, in his struggles, growing up with a parent that my dad struggled his whole, entire adult life, and so I had so much instability that when I was a kid that I\u2019ve never shared. I\u2019ve never shared any of it until writing this book, that people were like, Oh, I had no idea that for two years my sisters and my mom and I lived at my grandfather\u2019s house, and we shared a bed. We shared one bed, and we all four slept in that bed for two years, because my dad lost everything, and so my mom was trying to create some stability for us. We were never, ever homeless. We lived at the Hart House, but there was only one available room. So it really taught me about like I got to sink or swim. Those were hard chapters to write about, because I talk a lot about my dad\u2019s addiction and the things that we went through, and it was just those. Those were hard, but they were nothing like writing about TJ\u2019s chapters of his injury and what we went through.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>Whether she knew TJ Wilson was injured? <\/b> &#8220;I knew TJ couldn\u2019t move. Because Cesaro was trying to talk to him, and he [TJ] couldn\u2019t move, he literally just wouldn\u2019t. I knew he wasn\u2019t okay. I knew by the way his hands, everything just was like almost curled for a split second. I don\u2019t want to get too dramatic, but it didn\u2019t look like a normal landing. His body just looked different. Sometimes, if you hit a spider, they kind of curl up a little bit; it looked like he landed in a way that his body didn\u2019t look natural and at ease. Because when TJ first landed, he was paralyzed for like ten seconds, and so Claudio tried to grab him, to pull him out of the ring, and TJ said, &#8216;Don\u2019t touch me. Don\u2019t touch me.&#8217; And then, after being paralyzed for ten seconds, TJ was able to regroup. He got up, he launched himself out of the ring. And that\u2019s the thing, is that when you saw the way that TJ was, and I write a lot about it, and I go into detail again, don\u2019t want to give it all away, but when I saw how TJ was acting, he wasn\u2019t acting like someone that broke his neck. When you think of somebody that is injured, they\u2019re limping, they\u2019re vulnerable, they\u2019re crying. TJ was angry.&#8221;<\/p><div id=\"prowr-2491958165\" class=\"prowr-content-4 prowr-entity-placement\"><!-- Tag ID: prowrestling_incontent_2 -->\r\n<div align=\"center\" data-freestar-ad=\"__336x280 __336x280\" id=\"prowrestling_incontent_2\">\r\n  <script data-cfasync=\"false\" type=\"text\/javascript\">\r\n    freestar.config.enabled_slots.push({ placementName: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\", slotId: \"prowrestling_incontent_2\" });\r\n  <\/script>\r\n<\/div><\/div>\n<p><b>On TJ walking to the back after that match: <\/b>&#8220;He was very angry, and it was because he was scared. So that\u2019s the thing, is that people deal with trauma in different ways. So, for example, I broke my ankle many years ago, 2016, small, little injury. But I remember just being so scared. I wanted the whole match to just end right then and there. TJ, I think, because of being paralyzed, it scared him in a way that it went from fear to rage. So once he was not paralyzed anymore, the fear turned into rage. So people really didn\u2019t know that he had a broken neck, because he was walking around like normal. He\u2019s walking around, and he was just very, very angry and scared, and all of it was just coming out all at once.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But those were hard chapters to write about, because I just knew once we found out from the doctors that TJ had this type of injury, the one doctor was so blunt. He was like, \u2018Oh yeah, you\u2019re never, ever wrestling again. You have to find another profession.\u2019 He was very, very cold and blunt, and I wrote about it in the book. I just looked at Cesaro, because Cesaro was with us at the hospital. Cesaro had a tear rolling down his face. Because everybody that knows TJ just knows that he loves this. And Cesaro just knew that that was like a death and losing something that you love so much, there was a grieving there too. I also will say, just adding this, and I wrote about this in the book.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My heart broke for Samoa Joe, because nobody wants to ever go through anything like that. That was the last thing in the world that he wanted. He is somebody that, in the industry, Joe, I believe, and I have a pretty good pulse on the industry, not just in WWE, Joe is very respected. He\u2019s a great guy. The guys love Joe. He\u2019s got a great reputation. He\u2019s a great person. He loves the industry. He\u2019s very honorable. So it was the last thing in the world that Joe wanted. So my heart also broke for Joe, because I just always felt so bad that he had to carry that too.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;People say mean things all the time to all of us on social media, but that\u2019s the last thing in the world that Joe wanted. So I always had a little spot in my heart for him after that, because I was like, he didn\u2019t want that, nobody wanted it. It was a shitty situation. Nobody across the board wanted that to happen. But it happened, and it was something that we had to go through. I will say, and I\u2019ve said this before on your show, TJ\u2019s injury led him to, I think, the best chapter of his career, because he has been able to reach so many more people in WWE and in wrestling and in the world by doing the stuff that he\u2019s doing now. I think it was, unfortunately, part of his destiny, and sometimes you can\u2019t f&#8212; with your destiny. 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