{"id":122913,"date":"2022-12-29T10:30:03","date_gmt":"2022-12-29T16:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/?p=122913"},"modified":"2022-12-29T09:44:50","modified_gmt":"2022-12-29T15:44:50","slug":"eric-bischoff-on-working-for-vince-mcmahon-and-his-retirement-ric-flairs-recent-comments-appearing-on-wwe-and-aew-programming-cm-punk-aew-world-champion-mjf","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prowrestling.net\/site\/2022\/12\/29\/eric-bischoff-on-working-for-vince-mcmahon-and-his-retirement-ric-flairs-recent-comments-appearing-on-wwe-and-aew-programming-cm-punk-aew-world-champion-mjf\/","title":{"rendered":"Eric Bischoff on working for Vince McMahon and his retirement, Ric Flair&#8217;s recent comments, appearing on WWE and AEW programming, CM Punk, AEW World Champion MJF"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"prowr-81051620\" class=\"prowr-apple-podcast-button-link prowr-entity-placement\" style=\"margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/pro-wrestling-boom-podcast\/id1365989370\" aria-label=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?fit=320%2C78&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"SUBSCRIBE IN APPLE PODCASTS\"  srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?w=320&ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/prowrestling.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/advanced_ads\/2019\/07\/Logo2019_ApplePodcasts_320wide.png?resize=300%2C73&ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 320px) 100vw, 320px\" width=\"320\" height=\"78\"   \/><\/a><\/div><p><b>By Jason Powell<\/b>, ProWrestling.net Editor (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/prowrestlingnet\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">@prowrestlingnet<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><b>Insight With Chris Van Vliet with guest Eric Bischoff<br \/>\nHost: Chris Van Vliet<br \/>\nPodcast available via <a href=\"https:\/\/podcast.chrisvanvliet.com\/eric-bischoff-on-what-vince-mcmahon-is-doing-in-retirement-cm-punks-next-move-why-aews-ratings-are-down\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podcasts.Apple.com<\/a><br \/>\nVideo available at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9kerYUU1N4w\">Chris Van Vliet&#8217;s YouTube Page<\/a><\/b><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9kerYUU1N4w\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><b>On the comments made about Ric Flair:<\/b> &#8220;That\u2019s a weird one. Six months ago I was out having cocktails with Ric Flair, and Wendy. I ran into him at an autograph signing at a convention in Houston about a year ago, we just had the greatest time. He called me in my room \u2018come on down, we\u2019ll have the greatest time, woo!\u2019 I got the text. Then all of a sudden, I get blindsided. And I don\u2019t know, I don\u2019t know what got into Ric. Maybe somebody said something to him that I said, or he heard me say something that rubbed him the wrong way or he had some kind of a flashback. But I honestly don\u2019t know. Even last night, I got into Vegas and I am sitting down and having a beer and looking through my social media. I see stuff that Ric said, I fire back, and as soon I was done, I said that\u2019s it, I\u2019m just not doing this. I have a lot of affection for Ric, I don\u2019t know why, but I love Ric. And I\u2019m sure I\u2019m not the only one that loves Ric and does not know why they love Ric, he\u2019s got that personality. I have a lot of respect for him, and I don\u2019t want to engage anymore in the social media thing. If Ric wants to sit down, have a face-to-face conversation and tell me what I did wrong, how I pissed him off or irritated him or whatever, I am happy to do that and put it behind us and move on. But as far as the social media stuff, I\u2019m probably not going to talk about it on my podcast anymore, because I am hoping that it just goes away.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On CM Punk:<\/b> &#8220;I don\u2019t know [what is going on]. I mean, it is a train wreck, that\u2019s all I know. I wasn\u2019t a big fan of Punk to begin with. I think he was overhyped. I think there was a great mystique, I don\u2019t want to take that away from him, there was a tremendous mystique. When he dropped that Pipe Bomb, that was like rebelling against the man. Everybody in America at one point in time, deep down wishes that they could do what he did. That is what created that mystique, and that mystique lived, even though, you know, he showed up to the UFC a couple of times and got humiliated. It didn\u2019t matter, he still had the mystique with the wrestling fans. When he got to AEW, I was excited, because I was interested to see how that would work. But if you go back and you listen to his opening promo, what did he do? He ripped Hulk Hogan. If you have to get yourself over with that kind of cheap heat, you\u2019re not over, you don\u2019t know how to get over. He was living off the momentum that was created for him in the WWE, he was living off of the mystique, he had it in his hands. I think that the way he was produced, his creative, I didn\u2019t find it compelling at all. He is out there wrestling nobodies.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On being able to appear on WWE and AEW programming:<\/b> &#8220;Yeah, that one [the AEW relationship] is not as good anymore, but that was my choice. I knew when I said what I was going to say that it will be the last time I get invited there. I was fine with that. I don\u2019t worry about it, it is what it is. But when I was bouncing back between WWE and AEW, first time I got a call from AEW, I called Bruce Prichard. I said that I just want to let you know out of courtesy and respect for our friendship, I am still tight with Bruce. Please let Vince know, if he has got a question about this or an issue, please give me a shout. If not, I am going to go ahead. I got the word back to go and have a ball, it\u2019s just communication and common courtesy.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On working for Vince McMahon:<\/b> &#8220;Obviously I wasn\u2019t there on the inside when Vince left. I was there for four months, I worked with Vince almost every day. On those days we did work together, it was often for hours and hours and hours. I don\u2019t want to say that I know Vince McMahon, because I don\u2019t, I don\u2019t think anybody does outside of his immediate family. We all get little glimpses of him, but I don\u2019t think many people really know Vince McMahon. My experience was Vince had a strong vision, clearly, look where WWE is today, clearly he has had a strong vision throughout his life. The challenge for me and the people I worked with on the creative side were to come up with things that would get Vince\u2019s attention in a positive way. You never knew what that was going to be, because there was no consistency there.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Every day was a brand new day, it\u2019s not like I could get a read on Vince McMahon. I think that stifled creativity a lot. You\u2019ve heard these stories, and I don\u2019t mean to share these experiences as like a tell all or anything negative, because it worked for them and it worked for Vince McMahon, I wish I could have figured those out. But you have heard the stories of showing up to television at 1 o&#8217;clock, tearing up the script and starting from scratch. Those aren\u2019t exaggerations. That process, or lack thereof, is not conducive to great creativity. And I think, I\u2019m guessing on this, because I don\u2019t know Paul Levesque well either, I have worked a long time around him. Paul had been a part of that creative process long enough to know what the weak points were, to know what was holding it back, to know what was frustrating the people that were charged with coming up with good creative. I think that Paul made a lot of those changes very quickly, and I would imagine that the quality of the writing and the quality of the creative got much tighter. Writers got more confidence, because it was a more predictable environment, just the quality went up, that\u2019s my take.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On Vince McMahon retiring:<\/b> &#8220;I don\u2019t know, like I said I don&#8217;t really know him. I know he is interested in cars, he\u2019s got nice cars. But I have never heard a story of him like going golfing, yachting or fishing. I don\u2019t think he did anything but work or workout.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>On MJF:<\/b> &#8220;I have jeans older than him! He\u2019s so good. I think the reason, well there are many reasons, but one of the reasons is that he lives it. A lot of guys that play heels on TV don\u2019t play heels in real life and don\u2019t want to be. It\u2019s human nature, no one wants to be hated. I think wrestling in particular, it\u2019s not like being an actor. You can be a villain in a movie, and everyone knows you are just playing a movie. But in wrestling, when you\u2019re a villain in wrestling they think you are a villain in real life. 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